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Hot Tubs, Who You
Buy From
Is Important.
Havenmade Inc.
copyright 1999 through 2008
We have now been shipping and delivering Haven spas to most all parts
of the
US, Hawaii, Alaska, in Canada, UK, and now The Netherlands for
over 10 years.
The latest news in the spa industry is that it is not doing very well,
because of the facts that spa sales are way down. There are about
50 brands of spas that have dissappered forever, and at least 300
dealers who are no longer. Recently the second largest spa
company reported extreme losses and was sold for 1/3 of its value from
just a few years ago. What happened?
I believe that the industry is in a weeding process. The
consumers are spreading the word about all the broken promises and all
the broken spas sitting in backyards. The greed that is prevalent
in the spa industry is finally catching up to itself. The quality
of spas has degraded to a point where there are only five good spa
companies left on the planet.
I can remember when we first started offering spas to people for
delivery from our advertising on the Internet. One of the biggest
issues that the dealers kept bringing up was "how are you going to get
your spa serviced" . Our customers did not see that
as and issue, and were right.
That used to be an effective method to sell against us, because
consumers used to be fearful of buying "over the net". Now
the opposite is true. You need to be affraid of buying from a
dealer is is destined to shortely go out of business.
All of those people who bought spas from those hundreds of dealers that
are no longer, are completely without dealer support, because the
dealers are gone. If they had purchased from us, they would still
have service today. Isn't that ironic. They bought from local
dealers out of fear and their fears came true. Plus they own
inferior products for a fact. I get email from them telling me
the wish they had bought from us.
All of the dealers in the Denver area, that I am aware of , who started
their businesses the same year as us 1996,. are out of
business. All of them. We are still here, because we believe in
honesty and ethics, and our products perform better for less
money. The Internet has allowed us to lower our overhead
drastically over traditional spa stores.
I want to say this again. There are no finer hot tub products for
the money, anywhere on earth than what we offer. That is a fact
that is now well known and we are the biggest threat to the old
fashioned "local dealers", who can't afford to offer quality any longer
and pay the bills. It is very unfortunate that this is
happening, because we sell more spas out of state than we do locally,
by a long shot. It is just the nature of the spa sales today.
All I have seen in the last 5 years is a constant degradation of the
products to a level of mediocrity that I never expected to
see. I actually thought that my articles on how to make
better spas would catch on, but greed always wins out over ethics in
"modern US business" because making better products is not the plan,
making more money is. This always backfires for the greedy
unethical companies and it will always catch up to them.
Who you buy from is
important.
And
How we service
our customers.
by Jim Arjuna
One of the most common questions we get
is: How can we sell spas over the internet and get them
serviced? It is actually very simple to accomplish.
So far every time I look for service people we find them
within an hour
or two. I use the internet to find them.
Occasionally, we
don't get them to call back right away, because they are busy fixing
spas.
We try to get the spas fixed within two days if the spa is unusable,
like
the pump quits for some reason. So far we have had only one out
of
state internet spa that needed a pump replacement, but the pump did
limp
along until the new one arrived. And to this day no control
boards
have needed replaced. That, of course, could
change.
Most of the problems are cosmetic or a sticky jet or something like
that.
Because I choose the equipment, and it is darn good equipment,
we do not
have the breakdowns that others have. Price of the component is not a
primary
reason for choosing the component. My experience and
knowledge
is.
( 2008 update. Of course all of this has changed, just
because of the volume of spas we have sold. However, even with
much higher numbers we still on average have two warranty service
issues per month. That is nothing compared to other spa
companies,
who don't make quality products.)
Because I have had to do warranty service up in the
mountains of Colorado,
starting years ago, I learned to find spa repair people near the
customer's
house so the $150 drive charge didn't happen. Back then it was
really
inconvenient for us in lost repair time while the repair
technician
was on the road, and the cost to the customer was silly; when
there
are plenty of service people near by their house.
Spas have now been around for over 15 years, (hot
tubs longer) and because of that there are a lot of spa repair people
out there. 10 years
ago, I would have had a hard time getting the spas fixed, but not any
more.
Our spas are easy to repair. The components are easy to
access.
They just plug into the control box, and unscrews or unbolts in
minutes.
There are independent spa repair people who do not sell
spas. When I talk with them I often find that they
are already doing warranty work
for other spa companies. What we are doing has already been
done
successfully for many years. Occasionally there is a screw up,
because
of communication problems, but the customer always gets taken care of.
I much prefer to have customers well taken care of, instead
of trying to cut costs by finding the least expensive spa
technician. Some warranties
pay less than $25 to $35 per hour. We can't afford to do
service
for $35 so why would I expect anyone else to .
With normal warranty pay the warranty customers get put on the
back burner.
The repair company will try to fit you in sometime in the next two
weeks
to three weeks. They use warranty for fill in work.
We do not like having our customers unable to use the
spa, so
we get the money to the repair company fast and we pay a bit more for
the
service. The attitude of the spa tech also improves when he
is
being paid better. We also know the service rates across
the
country, so we keep the costs under control.
There is an old saying in sales; "You can get good
quality at a
reasonable price. You can get cheap slow response, low
quality service. Or you can get good quality service but
you will have to pay for it."
The cheaper the spa, the slower the warranty service,
and customer service suffers. A technician who is better
compensated will take better
care of my customers.
Here is another nice thing about buying from us, you can
pick the service
person you want to work on your spa. We do prefer to work
with
service people we have a rapport with, but it is more important
that
you as the customer get someone you feel comfortable with.
I write a lot of information based upon first hand
experience. If I had to sit here at the computer and
figure how to write a bunch of inferences like "Our spas are built to
last", I would have to ponder each
and every sentence to make sure the story is a good one, and I
would
have to have a really good memory . Since my memory isn't as good
as
it used to be, I stick with being
straightforward. How is "Our spas are
built to last." an almost lie? It implies the spa will last
a long time. What it really says is the spa will last
some amount of time; a day, a week, a year, several years, or a
decade
or three. In other words it doesn't say anything meaningful.
Take a look at the web sites and the brochures of many
other spa companies.
How much fluff and sales words do you read? Lots of technological
words
and safe words, security words, I call those sales pitch
words.
Lots of nonsense and no information on spa insulation or jet pumps or
anything. It is mostly hype.
Some times people (prospective buyers) get so wrapped up in
money and
price. They are easy prey for the cheap spa
companies. We have found that people who buy cheap, often
wind up paying more, become angry when the service doesn't come, and
pay for their own warranty service anyway. If the spa is cheap,
there probably is no money for service, so you just don't get good
service at all until you call your lawyer and spend $1500 for a
retainer so he will write some ugly letters.
There is a store here in Denver that sells really lousy
spas and compares
them as better than the big boys, selling them for about half of
what
a quality spa would sell for. Cheap spa buyers are their
prey.
The cheap spa store will tell the cheap spa buyer what he wants to
hear.
"These are the best spas at half the price!" If you WANT to
believe
that you will believe that.
We are glad to do great service for our
customers. We often
get referrals from a spa customers when we go the extra mile for
them. ( We have gotten some of our service people to now
be Haven Representatives for us.)
(If you want fresh clean oats, we have them. If
you want oats
that have already been through the horse, you will have to go
elsewhere.)
Our customers get an education, they buy from us with
knowledge. We have customers fly in just to see and
wet test the spas. Our spas are much better quality and
priced right. They are quiet, powerful,
exceptionally energy efficient, with real massage and strong
shells!
They are also beautiful!
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