I have done more to educate
people about staying away from problematic
hot tubs than any other person on earth.
(Each time you see a link, click on it and read.
It can save you thousands of dollars.)
Over 10,000,000 people, throughout the world,
have read our site
my
book
and our
Q and A. That
is having an impact on hot tub sales. I am
glad that the word is out on hot tub companies
and the manipulation used on consumers who are
not aware of the nonsense used to convince
people to buy. If there is one thing about hot
tubs that needs to change is for consumers to be
educated on hot tubs.
The first thing I ask people when they come to
shop is; "How much do you know about hot
tubs?" The answer is nearly always: "Not
much."
Shopping for a fine quality spa at a hot tub
store, is far more difficult than searching for
the cause of existence in old rocks. Every
where shoppers go, they have the "best spas".
So, we know that someone is not truthful.
An educated consumers is a better
consumer and the consumers will buy quality,
because they
understand quality and
value after they do the research needed.
They will buy from a nice salesman, because they
feel comfortable with the deal. After you own
the product or (later purchase a better spa)
that you realize if you did OK or not.
Don't you think a combination of "nice
salesperson and a real quality product" is far
better? Most spas are sold as "high end"
are really not. They are as high end as the
manufacture can make within the limits of the
profits.
By eliminating all the middle people and sell
direct to consumers, a company can, (but does
not always) make the products better with the
extra money saved by not having middle people in
the sales trail of the spa.
In the beginning most of our Haven buyers were
engineers, because they do understand the
physical world and that gives them an advantage
over the average consumer.
We made a stance on
advertising that has some adverse results with
people who are "technically challenged" and
think our blunt approach is wrong. The
evidence is in the back yards of Haven Spa
owners. Don't you think you owe it
to yourself to find out why?
Don't believe anything I have to say
either. Find out if it is true. Do some
research; contact our customers; contact your
engineer friends and have them read our
technical articles.
My father taught me to not believe people who
have agendas, to find the truth for
myself. He told me that people will
believe anything and think it is real because
they "heard this" or they "heard that" or they
believe some "authority". His premise
has never failed to prove true.
To those who understand common sense,
logic, reason, and see for themselves, we are
among the best products you can own.
We, at Haven, agree, now, because it makes us
feel empathy towards people, to think that
someone bought a piece of
cheap
plastic stuffed with
high
density foam, with three way
diverters,
weak pumps and
poor filtering,
for over $10,000 of hard earned money.
Simply because of a nice salesman and a bunch of
fake, manipulative advertising nonsense that
sounds so sweet to the ears. (I have been
accused of being blunt.)
I have found that people who want to
manipulate you into their agendas, will
deceive themselves
and you ("tickle your ears", as Dad used to
teach me). Those who really care will tell you
the truth, even at the cost of sales or
reputation.
We are in business today, and in a better
position than ever with even more innovations
(2012) to continue to eclipse the
competition. We actually have a model line
called "Eclipse" because that is an appropriate
name for them.
If you want a really fine hot tub product,
you own it to yourself to read this, contact our
customers and find out the truth.
Don't worry we are still finding educated people
who understand about physical science and ethics
and we are rapidly expanding in Europe now.
We cause
people to stop, look and wait to make an
informed decision.
We help people to understand what is going
on and how these hot tub companies are taking
advantage of consumer's lack in knowledge
about hot tubs. And the competition feels
the pinch from us
http://www.spaspecialist.com/Bogus.html
There has never been a case of
"wolves in sheep's clothing" more than in the
present condition of the spa industry.
There are many people who will tickle your ears
with what they know you want to hear in order to
sell you something, but an ethical person tells
the truth as best as they know it. And if you
are only getting your information from the
people who indoctrinated you (as a sales
person), you are not honest with yourself by not
taking the time to study the market.. In
this case, especially with the larger spa
manufacturers teach you unethical, deceptive,
agendas to sell with. Some truth mixed in with
BS is the normal sales pitch.
Ignorant people who live off rhetoric, supplied
by an unethical spa company, will tend to
believe the rhetoric. Ethics is lacking
today in the US. It is at the foundation of the
US economic problems.
When you consider that most spas are substandard
(way below my minimum standards), and the most
expensive ones from the large corporations are
real flashy products with no strength, you can
understand why these salespeople really don't
like how we educate consumers.
The end result is a lot of broken down
hot tubs in people's back yards and after seven
to ten years you take it to the dump and add
more problems for the environment. (Have
Spas are designed to last a minimum of 20 years
with abuse, and over 30 years with care. Using
non chemical treatments.)
I don't know many men who would admit they got
screwed on a spa (or anything) deal, as
long as the spa lasts a few years. It is
an ego thing.
The "problem" the competition has is our
positive reputation record with all consumers
and our customers. We really do care about
other people, and our relationship and
responsibility to them. (Other spa
companies just don't have what it takes to cut
it using modern designs and testing. If
all you see is copies of each other and the
sales pitches with "conviction", you know
someone is not honest.) It is not just about
money, and if it were ever a choice of ethics
over money, then I would stop if the only way to
stay in business was to cut value in our
products and mislead as these other companies
do. With the current economy it is getting
worse for consumers of hot tubs.
It is not ethical to sell some substandard
product to other people and to do so with
statements like: "This is the best spa
made." This is just pure logic. If
you are a spa salesperson, you need to know what
you are selling, by studying the market and this
web site if you value your ethical stance.
If what you sell is not up to any real standard
of quality, then why are you selling those
products? Instead of being angry with me,
expand your knowledge, get a better
product to sell, and make a stance for improving
the hot tub industry.
The fact is, the best "portable" spa made today
is the Super Custom Magnum spas from Haven.
There is nothing that even approaches that
spa from any other hot tub company. So, if they
are telling you that they "have the best spas",
it is a direct lie. Our lowest end models
are far better than many of the other company's,
so called, "high end".
http://www.spaspecialist.com/Cameo_SilvercreekGold.html
Most all of the Internet forums are run
by hot tub sales people, and you will get the
worst information from those sites.
Because the "Dog Dish" company, is the
worst value today and has been for about 20
years as they keep cutting the quality and
making them pretty (manufactured in Mexico).
But they do have the highest profits
because of consumer ignorance. If you judge a
company by its extreme profits as being the
best, then by all means give them your money.
Read:
http://www.spaspecialist.com/qa.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/FullFoamVSThermallySealed.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/AlbertaResearchCouncil.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/ANSI1.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/SteelBoxes.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/Bogus.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/Wood_VS_Metal.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/BulletJets.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/feb2000.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/jun99.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/compare.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/TheMythsOfFiltering.html
http://www.spaspecialist.com/hotspringUL.html
(When I put up this page, it appeared at the top
of the google searches for the topic. Since then
the company has buried it in a mass of pages
designed to bury it. They never contacted me
about this page and have never denied it
either.)