| Spa Model
and basic Power |
Haven Spa Shorewood SE One pump and
Turbo 34 jets; ozone, full size circulation pump 35 GPM and
HavenSpas method of water care. DAIT
level II Look at what we do. |
Competitor "Top Brand" Two 2HP Pumps 34 Jets
Tiny Circ pump full foam, with diverter first plumbing ;
ozone and their system of maintaining the water. This
is the most popular brand of hot tub and has most every
design issue I think is just stupid.
From the control box, insulation, plumbing and cheap shells. Only uninformed
and emotionally controlled people fall for this. |
Cumulative over costs of "Top Brand" vs.
Haven |
| Purchase Price and model total HP (average sale price) | 5.5 HP $10,000 includes shipping to you. This
is a REAL therapy spa with powerful jets. |
5 HP $11,000 delivery extra. Weak therapy,
but as close as I can find from their line up. |
$1000 + |
| Electric usage FOR REAL 10 cents per KWH
Daily cost to maintain: cover on all the time, heating
filtering keeping water above 102 degrees F. Average temperature:
50.15°F
Annual high temperature:
64°F
Annual low temperature:
36.3°F
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4,5KWH (45 cents per day) 7 years 4.5 x 365 x 7 = 11,497 KWH for 7 years = $1149.75 $13.69 / Month If you think your Haven spas is costing too much on electricity, we will send you an energy meter to put on your spa. |
8.06 KW H per day. (80.6 cents per day)
This is the closest competitor to our energy use. In actual
independent studies in Germany. Interpolated for Denver Co,
and very optimistic: READ)
7 years 8.06 KWH x 365 x 7 = 20593.3 KWH for 7 years
$2059.33 $24.52 / Month Most people are afraid to keep track of the usage, because they don't want to be made into fools. |
$909.58+ |
| Cost for energy use with cover off and using
pumps for 20 min each pump. 4 times a week, with two
normally clean people, for 7 years. 30 min total
use. |
1.227 KWH 83% of heat energy conserved.
Heat of motors goes directly into water. 4 KW Electric
heater runs for 17% of time cover is off. (Don't need
6000 watts when spa pumps are also heating the water.) 17% of 2 KWH (half hour use) = 0.340 watts of actual heater use. 1.227 KWH + .340 KWH = 1.567 KWH for each use. of the most energy efficient spa on earth. $0.1557 cents per use times 365 x 7 years = 397.73 851.66 hours of water pump usage.m (From actual meter tests on our current customer's spas) |
1.073 all heat energy is lost as the
pump is isolate from water by foam. Electric heater is
running for 90% of time cover is off. 30 min 6,000
watt heater = 3 KWH = 1.073 = 4,073 KW per use. $0.4073 times 365 x 7 = $1040.65 1703.33 hours of water pump usage. Fully foamed spas use ONLY electric resistance heat to heat the water, and minuscule amount of mechanical heat from compressing some air in the water to increase heat. It is an archaic design, solely for the purpose of making the spa much cheaper and much more profits. I am giving PERFECT conditions on this spa and data from the makers, and most people pay on average $50 per month in summer and $100 in winter. I hate these spas for lying to people and making my job harder, because people get "the word out" on hot tubs. Our numbers are from TESTING in the field. |
$642.91+ |
| Cost for maintenance. |
Our system of ions, ozone, chlorine, non
chlorine shock, alkalinity up. Clean filters once a
month deep clean twice a year. Total Chemicals 7 years = $2314.59 (330.65 per year) Ozone $22.5 per year. =157.5 / 7 years. |
Their system silver cartridge shock clorine
and many products used to remove oils, and debris from the
water. Their filtering
is horrible, so they cost more to keep clean
going. I have had many of their customers come into
our store (when we had one, now all on the "Net") telling me
how much they love their spas, but they "cannot keep the
water clean". So we sold them a lot of stuff to help and we
showed them how to improve the filtering by RUNNING THE JET PUMPS
EXTRA to bring more debris to the filter. Total Chemical costs. Just the filter cost on a two pump spa from this company is $675 per year according to the recommended replacements times from the factory. 9625.00 for 7 years of use according to manufacturer's recommendations and cost for supplies and chemicals. |
$7152.91+ |
| Repairs for Parts with today's warrantys |
$00.00 Unless you destroy something by
incorrect use. |
5 years of parts. 2 years of repairs. $900.00 Min. (Clue: Exclusive VERY expensive parts and it gets VERY expensive when they leak, over $3000 for one leak in a full foam spa, these days.) |
$900.00+ |
| Repairs for Labor out of warranty 5 years
now. |
On average. $50 per year across the
country. With over 2000 spas now in the world and
almost no warranty. Many of our spas over 12 years old
are still running on original equipment (by design). |
$400 MINIMUM for two years after warranty is
over. I recommend you have the spa modified
after the warranty is over, so you can save some money on
chemicals at least. |
$350.00+ |
| HERE'S The TOTAL savings difference
between Haven and brand X, the number one selling hot
tub. Basically, buying a Haven Spas is the same as
getting the spa for free, just on the cost savings over
time. |
$10,955.40 |
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| People think this is some sort of
exaggeration, but these numbers are VERY optimistic in favor
of the major competitor's spas. For instance one
freeze damage to this spa, and they are VERY prone to
freezing if the thing stops in winter, costs over $2500
bucks now to fix. And one leak over time is over $3000
for the dealer to fix. They don't fix them in the field,
because if you see how crappy the spa is made you would be
very negative towards them and tell your neighbors never to
buy one. Here is a Video of one of the best spa repair
guys on Youtube fixing one of these leakers in his
shop. Normally, if there is one leak there are two or
three in this type of poor quality plumbing. This guy
has a fix for this out of date style of fittings used on
these spas. Notice how he starts out, his first
statements. Return to HOME |
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